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That old brick wall

DNA genealogy: it confounds me at times. Trying to understand the haplo groups, subclades,  which test to get, how many markers  are needed to find a genealogical match, the difference between Ydna, Mtdna and autosomal dna. Some of the more scientific language used in some essays and explanations frazzle my brain at the titles alone.

Confusion aside, I’m attempting to educate myself about it enough to understand how it works with genealogy. And bless their soul, a direct Stroud male descendant had a 37 marker Ydna test done, uploaded and is gracious and kind to share the results with me and other descendants.

Now we are told we have a 37/37 marker match with another descendant of the line of John Stroud b. circa 1726 died 1776 in Mecklenburg County, Va. He married Sarah Morris, who apparently expired before he did, as his will mentions his deceased wife. Most researchers information of this line do not include locations/names and/or dates that seem to align with the names/dates/known locations of Thomas Stroud 1775-1832 Emanuel Co, Georgia, USA.  But it’s hard to argue with the results: 37/37 markers match and  DNA is DNA.

Now all we have to do is figure out how we are connected to this couple.

Easier said than done. Our group of Stroud bloodhounds researchers are hot on the trail and we can’t be stopped! 😀 The hunt continues.


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Off the chartz; things you won’t see on the family tree chart

Edited  to add:

I originally stated my intention to blog about my family history research. I will continue to do so, at some point.  A few have noticed that my recent blogging has rambled off into related but separate subjects which will continue as well as including other ramblings, as the notion strikes me. I didn’t name it ‘off the chartz’ for nothing! 🙂
Thanks for reading. Happy blogging. BLS 6-30-2014


These pages will contain information gathered in genealogical research of the descendants of Thomas and Emilia Stroud. Though a family tree website does exist for this and related families, I needed  a different type of space to share information with those who are interested. Thus, I have arrived  at this blog spot which I dub “off the chartz“. (‘charts’ was taken, hence the misspelling).

Thomas and Emilia Stroud were the parents of my great great grandfather John Stroud (md to Susannah Drew) in addition to Thomas (md. Martha Rich), James (md. Sabra Drew) Sarah (unmarried) and Mary M. (md.  ** Scott).

Thomas & Emilia Stroud are hard to track down, in fact, they are my genealogical ‘brick wall’. As of today, the earliest located date of residence is for Thomas Stroud in Jefferson County, GA. He is listed in Jefferson County, Ga and some surrounding areas, Land records Vol. I Mid 1700s – mid 1800s by Daniel Crumpton. Whew! That’s quite a long title isn’t it? The book explains that some people were listed in the tax digest without owning land, and indeed Thomas shows up with lots of blanks beside his name. This is usually because the individual has either just moved into the area and/or had just come of age (21) to be a taxpayer or landowner. Since Thomas Stroud was born appx 1774-1780 the latter is probably true in his case.

Thomas also shows up on land plats in Jefferson County Ga dated 1817, as a ‘cc’ or chain carrier. The property he was assisting in survey of belonged to  William Daniel,  was adjoined by Nathan Bostick, and consisted of 58 acres in Williamson Swamp on the Ogeechee River between Louisville, Ga and NE of Coleman’s Lake.

Thomas next shows up in the 1820 census of Jefferson County ga which lists in household: males 45+ one, males less than 10 yrs old 1, females 45+ 1, females less than 10- 1, females between 10-16 – 1. This would place Thomas year of birth at least 1775, and Emilia about the same, though hers is debatable since later census records indicate her year of birth to be about  1786.

By 1830 the family had moved to Emanuel  County near Blun, in the the pine forest, wiregrass meadows  and brier creek swamps.  Emanuel County census of 1830 shows:


  0-05   1

  5-10   1

10-15   1

20-30   1

50-60   1


15-20   1

20-30   1

40-50   1

While it is not known the exact location of their homestead, it would be a good guess that it was somewhere -or anywhere- near the area between Blun, Old Dellwood, and  the Summertown-MIdville areas towards the Ogeechee river.

*****10-8-11: I have done a bit more research into the ‘nearbys’ of the 1830 Emanuel County census. Preliminary results indicate that Thomas & Emilia’s earliest home place in Emanuel county was in the general area of the property that their son John later acquired and lived on with his family and is buried there. To be more specific, between John Stroud’s  ‘old home place’ and  the Summertown/Midville area.

By 1840, Thomas had passed away.  Emilia is listed in the 1840 census with one other female in the household.

*****10-8-11: After reviewing more records, I’m comfortable with stating that Thomas likely died before the Georgia land lottery of 1832, since the ‘boys’ were listed as orphans both in the record of lottery winners and later as described below.*

The sisters were over 18 years old and where therefore ineligible to participate in the 1832 lottery.

Mary born abt 1808-1810 and living in her own household was married at the time to John Scott.

Sarah born abt  1812, living at home with Emilia , John, Thomas and James until such time as the boys likely were sent to stay with friends and/or relatives until they came of age  (James, Thomas and John do not show up in the 1840 census-John Stroud shows up again in the 1850 census in the household of White {aka Whit} Smith).

*Robert Higdon was appointed guardian of the boys and in 1837 advertised for auction land to be sold for the benefit of the ‘orphans of Thomas Stroud, deceased, Thomas, James and John Stroud.”

Thomas’ parents names at this time has not been discovered or proven. Emilia, Sarah and Mary M. have been noted as being from South Carolina.

Sarah never married.

The search will continue.


Posted by on June 19, 2011 in family history, genealogy, Uncategorized


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